/R/ RAPIDSHARE OF ENGLISH PATCH

Yeah, but you have to go to IRC and somehow prove you have a legit copy of the game before they'll send it to you, at least for the first month.

Since I have no intention of buying the game until I have the patch in my possession, I won't be picking it up until next month--unless someone has an alternate download location, of course.

Anyone got the patch? I know I can count on you, 4chan.

>>645711
Considering that what they're doing is copyright infringement anyway, why the Hell are they being so uptight about this...?

hgame called wind?

>>645711
>Yeah, but you have to go to IRC and somehow prove you have a legit copy of the game before they'll send it to you, at least for the first month.

Torrent of game+patch incoming in 5... 4... 3...

>>645715
Wind: A Breath of Heart.

H-Game. Reasonably good, but rumours say the end gets pretty crappy.

Here's their page, if you're interested:
http://nnl1.com/wind/

>>645717
It's been out for a while. There's a thread a few pages back in /t/. English translation and all.

>>Torrent of game+patch incoming in 5... 4... 3...

Maybe. The CD version of Wind is all over the place, but the patch only works with the DVD re-release, which I can't find torrented. $78 from Hirameki.

Torrent can be found here:
http://rapidshare.de/files/24031921/_isoHunt__ce617beaf370fc95c6d32d15411e8e18943edaff.torrent.html

DVD patch
For the first month, the only way to obtain our patch is to join the IRC channel #nnl @ irc.zirc.org. Ask to take the supah hamonika test. If you agree to the terms of the test, one of the channel operators will ask you a question about your ownership of the game. Correctly answering this question will result in the channel operator immediately sending you the patch.

UPDATE: You may now provide photographic evidence of your ownership. However, be advised that our photographic requests are considerably more difficult to perform than answering the question.

And here's the patch:
http://rapidshare.de/files/24031997/_isoHunt__9a21a319bab955aebafd9cf5a0eaa373b034eab5.torrent.html

>>645733
Appreciate the torrent, but I'd just like to get on mah soapbox for a moment here...

Rapidsharing a .torrent file is FUCKING STUPID.

>>645733
>>645738
My good man, you fucking deliver. My thanks to you

this needs to be put up /t/ as well

http://datorrents.com/torrents-details.asp?id=11138

>>645738
After reading the comments, this patch seems to be a fake?

So is this shit real or fake?

>>645738
The script files in this "patch" just repeat:

"Buy the game, dumbass.
Buy the game, dumbass.
Buy the game, dumbass.
Buy the game, dumbass."

lol 10 bux says this is just a torrent by the translation team. Anonymous needs to find and rapidshare the real patch just to show these guys up

>>645733
And the Japanese game torrent seems to be real. Game is still in moonspeak though.

"Day 3 statistics for the Wind patch. Yesterday, four people stepped up to the plate. All four struck out. Something is wrong when the examinees can't even correctly answer questions such as identifying the color of the cardboard insert used to hold the discs. You people disgust me." only a matter of time lol

Anonymous needs to leak the real patch

"We have noticed an ISO of the game (without the patch, obviously) appearing over the torrent networks. Look, we're not the MPAA, and minori is not a multi-million dollar company. Don't be a bunch of jerks, guys. We put over a thousand hours into this. If you want to play our patch, just buy the game."

>>645871

this is one of the most hypocritical things i've ever read.

it'd be like saying "in order to gain access to this fansub, you must legally own the dvd and jump through these 3 hoops"

>>645700
lol, if someone bought the game, then Id assume they know enough Japanese to not need the eng patch.
ULTIMATE FAILURE maybe

any game/anime in wich character's eyes cover more that 60% of their faces is doomed to be a trite and shallow autofail

>>645892
THE SAME CAN BE SAID OF ALL ANIMU maybe

Someone will leak it eventually.

>"Oh, and guess what? Heklin, the translator of the Shuffle! project, liked this distribution idea so much that he will also do it when the Shuffle! patch is complete. Now's your chance to purchase both games legally and save on shipping. Best of all, you'll feel good inside."

Ugh.

>>645904

why do they even bother with this

the target audience for these translations is 1 of 3 groups

1. people who watched the corresponding anime series, can't read moon
2. people who just have an intrest, but can't read moon
3. ?????????

why would someone buy a game for 70$ in the hopes someone will translate it

>>645879
That is pretty much what they're saying, isn't it?

"you must own the game in order to use our illegal modification of the game."

It would be hilarious if the first person who jumped through their hoops was game company's lawyer, who then used the patch as evidence in a lawsuit. They'd deserve it.

>>645915

is there a legitimate explanation for this other than "buy the game so you can illegally play it"? because as stupid as this is, it's hard to believe they're that stupid

I wouldn't mind buying this game to demonstrate to its Japanese publisher that there's an American market... but not for 80 bux.

Lol, buy the game and then they have Digi Charat licensed anime on their torrent page.

I've wanted to play this.

I'm kind of tempted to buy this, get the patch then rapidshare the shit, but damn, spending $100 dollars on a hgame? (game is $80, international shipping is $20)

That's just.. fucking lol. LEAK IT ANONYMOUS.

>>645922
>>Lol, buy the game and then they have Digi Charat licensed anime on their torrent page.

lol

http://www.shii.org/translate/

Of all of these, I've only played the 50% patch of Kanon, which was pretty good even though I don't like KEY's grotesque art.

>>645919
Believe or not, that's what they are saying; according to their FAQ, they're hiding behind the "no one's suing us, so it's OK" excuse.

>>645951
So, I could go murder someone in a dark alleyway somewhere and as long as I don't get caught and there are no charges filed against me I'm perfectly okay? Good to know.

>>645963
Congratulation! You have just aced "Fansubber Ethics 101"!

>>645997
But then, if we take this a step futher, no one's sued me yet for downloading the game, right? So, by their logic, that means downloading the game is okay, right? So... why won't they gimme the patch?

>>645963
Well form one point of view...yeah, your ok - there are probably several people in the world who have done something like that and are walking around. Come to think of it, i know there are.

As for something like this, if its good enough...yeah id probably buy it - but as it stands, no, not that amount of money...at least not for now.

>>645851
meh only 3? thinking on it - thats a pretty high level of respect for there desires (tho i dont agree with them)

>>So... why won't they gimme the patch?

Well, it could be...

1)They're pathetic jerk offs that get off on making people jump through hoops.
2)It's a weak way of soothing their consciences about their illegal h4x by making you "support" the industry by buying the game.
3) Both 1 and 2.

>>646031
>soothing their consciences about their illegal h4x

Illegal yes, though making an entire new audience for the game available hardly warrants "soothing their consciences".

>>646036

What audience? The two people who have the actual game?

>>646036
They'd have the exact same amount of audience whether they played this little wannabe quiz show or not. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they're discouraging people from buying the game by being jerks about this.

But I think the best part about this whole thing is that even if you were to buy it right now, considering how long it can take to ship a package from Japan, by the time the game arrived at you door there's a good chance the patch would have already been released to the public anyway. Remeber everyone, irony loves you.

>>646058
I wasn't so much commenting on the group's shannangins, but rather just the statement from the comment I was referring to. The new audience is small, true, but what they've done is still a good thing, and they deserve gratitude for that much.

Unfortunately, they're being outright moronic about the legitimacy shit they're going on with. I'd agree that people are probably being driven off getting the game entirely because of it. I know I'd feel much better buying the game with a freely-available patch available (I actually do plan to get the game with my next paycheck, though with shipping the patch is, as you mentioned, probably going to be near full public release time anyway).

All this is causing is a whole lot of hissy fits on both sides, a lose-lose situation.

I wonder how many people they expect to pass the test. Are they going to get even pissier if they don't get the response they hoped for within the month?

>>646090
Maybe, but I'm sure they'll be real up in arms when the patch gets leaked. Speaking of which... Hello?

>>646069
I agree with Anonymous. I wouldn't blame them for supporting the maker of the game but putting up such resitriction is silly. I would certainly buy the game if I love it after finishing it. But I don't want to throw $80 for the game and realize later it does not worth that much.

Let just wait until some one leaks the patch out

>>646069
I couldn't have put it better my self.
I also think its stupid for anyone to force people to buy anything its like telemarketing all over againg but feels like its forced down your throaght in a way.

Only thing I could sugest is this Whatch the anime and or play the english demo, if you like it enough then there's no harm in buying the game also. If not then there is always the wait for a month untill the patch is released to the public.
Anyway for most of us who have been waiting two and a half years for the patch whats an extra month going to to to us.

Anyway i'm a fan of the small Wind frenchise, so I'll be buying the game bundled with Moshimo Ashita ga Hare Naraba, and Summer Days.

at first i thought they were being assholes but now that i see how many anonymous they're pissing off i'm totally on their side. i hope they manage to convince even one person to buy the game.

>>I would certainly buy the game if I love it after finishing it. But I don't want to throw $80 for the game and realize later it does not worth that much.

and if you want to trial it, there's a demo. and as for liking it and then buying it, the US marketplace for visual novels suggests that you are either lying or a rare case.

>>646216
>the US marketplace for visual novels

...
BWUAHAHAHAHAHA

For Visual Novels to have a chance to take off,
1) Official translation would have to be for games of slightly higher calibour than Do You Like Horney Bunnies?

2) They'd have to be boxed and sold in stores.

>>646216
Wait... You thought they were assholes, but now that you see that there are people agreeing that they are assholes you don't think that they're assholes anymore...?

Bwuh...?

>>646216
think of what would happen if we had to start playing for anime subs... shivers

Hourglass of Summer FTW! Probably the only offical english language visual novel game to come to the US that is really good.

>>646298
Heard Kana ~Little Sister~ is pretty popular. Though playing it myself, I don't see why...

The States need more visual novel games...

does Pheonix Wright for Nintendo DS count as a visual novel?

>>646298

I thought Witch's Tea Time (Teatime for Witches? Damn, I can never remember the proper name) was done much better. Hourglass needed some serious work in the art department.

>>646298

Hourglass of Summer is awesome.

But Ever 17 ~The out of Infinity~ is nth times better. And also released in the US.

UPDATE FROM A FEW HOURS AGO

""THE PATCH WILL BE DISCONTINUED AS OF JULY 23rd, 2006.

Due to the rampant amounts of piracy, the dismal supah hamonika test pass rate, and the inane declarations of people attempting to circumvent our distribution method using all means necessary, verification has been suspended until this date. On July 23rd, GipFace will enter #nnl @ irc.zirc.org one final time and administer any remaining requests. After this testing period, the patch will no longer be made available to the public."

http://www.visualnews.net/?id=news

>>646342
Brilliant. Just fucking brilliant. Now, anyone who would've bought the game if it had a translation's not going to. All this does is piss off EVERYONE and provide LESS money for the company.

Way to fucking go, guys. Way to fucking go.

>>646342
...Honestly, what were they expecting? That legions of legal owners of a $80 foreign language hentai game would come flocking to them as if they were gods, right off the bat?

I can't help but think this whole thing is a big sham.

>>646343
aye :( tho cant say its suprising..
>>646350
aye, you have to wonder what they really expected..

anyways.....back to direct3d..

I have no doubt that the patch'll end up in the wild anyway.

To the translators:
Thanks for translating the game.
You're fucking morons for pulling this shit, it was going to happen anyway and now you're just going to drive off anyone unsure of/unable to getting through your hurdles. Bravo.

The fuck this is this shit?

"The test will be at least ten questions long, and will also involve THREE (3) pieces of photographic evidence. (A) You must provide a full-body picture of yourself holding the box in one hand and all three discs plus the manual in the other. (B) You must rip the customer feedback card into four equivalent-sized pieces, place one piece on each of the three discs, place the final piece on top of the box, and take a picture of all that. (C) You must destroy the support disc, then place the remains label-side-up on top of the box. You do not need the support disc for our patch."

Is this a fucking background check? Who the hell would support nutty translation teams like this? The picture thing is just plain odd and unnecessary.

>>646313
>>646327
>>646337

I had forgotten about those games. Thanks for reminding me about them.

>>646323

Yes it does.

Crescendo and Figures of Happiness are pretty good games to. So, for people who want to try these type of games and in english; they are avaible.

>>646365
lol this is the most retarded thing i ever heard


and i never give shit about eroge fantranslation anyways.
now have some haruhi

>>646368
roflmo...now ive heard everything :P

respect-for-translation-group meet open window...open window, please meet respect-for-translation-group...

>>646368
My eyes skimmed over this originally, so... Uh... Destroy the support disc? They want you to destroy a CD of a $80 game, because it's not necessary for their patch?

Okay, now I know this is just a big joke and they're trolling all of us.

You guys could do the alternative way...learn the moon language, then play the game

.....nah

We gots some self rightous hypocritical weeaboos on this here internet

>>646378
and I mean the translators

Since we are waiting to pirate their shit anyways, how about an earlier project? Planetarian!

http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/hashtorrent/3497530.torrent/%5BKey%5D%5BPC%5DPlanetarian___________
_Japanese_English_Voiced_Unvoiced.3497530.TPB.torrent

>>646368
>THREE (3) pieces of photographic evidence.
Ok. That sounds reasonable.
>(A) You must provide a full-body picture of yourself holding the box in one hand and all three discs plus the manual in the other.
Yay, providing my photo to strangers online.
>(B) You must rip the customer feedback card into four equivalent-sized pieces, place one piece on each of the three discs, place the final piece on top of the box, and take a picture of all that.
Yeah, like that isn't a bother and easily copyable from someone else's.
>(C) You must destroy the support disc, then place the remains label-side-up on top of the box. You do not need the support disc for our patch."
...
>You must destroy the support disc
...
Words fail me.
Even if you don't need it for the patch, destroying part of what I've bought isn't my idea of fucking reasonable.

this is one of the most hilarious things I've seen on /a/, nay, the entire internets, in a long while

thread delivers hard

>>And just one more reason as to the decision:

>>http://zip.4chan.org/a/res/645700.html

And now they're whining about this thread. I say we bring the hammer of /b/ down on their asses.

"helkin, translator of Shuffle, has gone to say that he will guarantee use this system to distribute his patch of Shuffle and will go to as much lengths (if required to) of creating individual patches with identification marks so that if it is leaked, it will be instantaneously obvious who leaked the patch."

zomg if u leak teh shuffle patch U WILL BE BVANNED FROM INTERWEBS!!1

Fucking unbelievable.

They make a patch, then decide not to give it to anyone? What was the point of making this patch then?

Sounds like a big waste of time for the translators. I was interested in playing this game, but now I'm so disgusted I say fuck it.

>>646388
Pic related?

Don't ever dissapoint anonymous

>>646389
What the fuck is he going to do? Make a key for each patch?

....lol wut are we gonna do guyz

>>646388

Seconded. Anonymous needs to kick their asses.

>>646388
>>646389
as they like, they can do as they wish with thier patch...but after all this shit, i wont be downloading it even if it becomes freely available - my morals/methods-of-supporting-game/anime companies are my own, and i wont have them dictated to me...nor would i dictate/force mine on others...

..fuck em.

Comedy gold. Will buy again!! A++++

LOL @ http://nnl1.com/wind/

THE PATCH WILL BE DISCONTINUED AS OF JULY 23rd, 2006 AT 23:00 EDT.

Due to the rampant amounts of piracy, the dismal supah hamonika test pass rate, and the inane declarations of people attempting to circumvent our distribution method using all means necessary, verification has been suspended until this date. On July 23rd, GipFace will enter #nnl @ irc.zirc.org one final time and administer any remaining requests. After this testing period, the patch will no longer be made available to the public.

[The test will be at least ten questions long, and will also involve THREE (3) pieces of photographic evidence. (A) You must provide a full-body picture of yourself holding the box in one hand and all three discs plus the manual in the other. (B) You must rip the customer feedback card into four equivalent-sized pieces, place one piece on each of the three discs, place the final piece on top of the box, and take a picture of all that. (C) You must destroy the support disc, then place the remains label-side-up on top of the box. You do not need the support disc for our patch.

If you do not have a digital camera, purchase a disposable camera, take the pictures now, develop them, and scan them at an internet cafe. Also, do keep the remains of the destroyed material. You will need them for the questions.]

So.
The translators are reading this.

To the translation team,

I thank you for translating this game. Many, many hours have been put into this at no benefit to you. For this, I am extremely grateful.

Unfortunately, I have decided against ordering it. I was to order it at the beginning of July, yet I have no will to purchase a game that I may not be able to play for the following reasons:
1) It may not arrive before your (arbitrary) date.
2) I have little will to sit through an exam and give away a photo of me and destroy a piece of my property to meet your standards of proof.
3) If I lose the patch (HDD failure, forgetting to backup, backups failing), when I'd be bereft of a translation. If it were freely available, this wouldn't be an issue.

I am sorry that you have felt it fit to take this route, as I am sure there are others like me who would've bought this game otherwise.

Sincerely, Anonymous.

Lets rip off a game company, then force people to buy their game to play it illegally modified.

What ever happened to sharing? Guess one of my (used to be) favorite groups) are now on that "do not download crap from these guys anymore" Not like ONE fan will make a difference, but I would imagine they irked quite a few of their fans with their antics?

Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy .. Hypocrisy ..

I wonder how the game manufacturer feels about this now. Knowing that what money they could have earned from this market just got tossed out the window. It has got to sting a bit, don't you think?

[quote]"The test will be at least ten questions long, and will also involve THREE (3) pieces of photographic evidence. (A) You must provide a full-body picture of yourself holding the box in one hand and all three discs plus the manual in the other. (B) You must rip the customer feedback card into four equivalent-sized pieces, place one piece on each of the three discs, place the final piece on top of the box, and take a picture of all that. (C) You must destroy the support disc, then place the remains label-side-up on top of the box. You do not need the support disc for our patch."[/quote]

I hope the people translating Tsukihime don't pull this shit on us.

If anything the people translating Wind should see it as an oppritunity(sp?) to spread word about visual novel games to people.

Not to mention, if people are going to such lengths to get a translation. It must mean it's a pretty good game, or people wouldn't give a shit about Wind. Denining more chances to spread word about visual novels.

They're not releasing it because there are people TALKING about pirating it?

After reading those draconian hoops people will have to jump through to use, no shit people are going to "pirate" it.

>>646368
I feel bad to whom ever bought the game and has to go through hell just to get a translated a patch

>>646392
I feel the same way.

It is probably easier to learn the moon language than jumping through all these hoops

They fucking act like some anons importing the game will inch the way for companies to release visual novels in america

they're gonna post your 'shopped pics on /b/

I dunno about option B), but option C) is hilarious. they're just gonna laugh at you then tell you, "oops, our bad, you DO need the CD for the patch"

Who destroys a god damn part of a game even if they don't deem it neccisary? That is quite possibly the dumbest thing anyone has been asked to do for the sake of a translation

>>646415
They can't. Tsuki Hime has long since been out of print for a few years. Or at least that's what I heard.

Yes, the majority would've pirated it.

It would've catapulted fan eroge-translations into the spotlight though, not to mention the other resons people have mentioned.

A sad day for ALL involved.

>>I hope the people translating Tsukihime don't pull this shit on us.

Oh, I can fucking bet it will. As soon as some anonymous types "OMG /R/ LEAK OF BETA PLZ" everyone is gonna go batshit insane. Because apparently 4chan /a/ is one of the centers of the internet.

>>646426
They're asking for people to get it off auction sites. It is indeed out of print and *very* expensive nowadays.

So far though, the translators haven't mentioned any rabid phobia of piracy though.

>>646430
lol i just bet my brother $7 equiv. they will...time shall tell i guess :P

'Because apparently 4chan /a/ is one of the centers of the internet'

well - for me it is :P

[The test will be at least ten questions long, and will also involve THREE (3) pieces of photographic evidence. (A) You must provide a full-body picture of yourself holding the box in one hand and all three discs plus the manual in the other. (B) You must rip the customer feedback card into four equivalent-sized pieces, place one piece on each of the three discs, place the final piece on top of the box, and take a picture of all that. (C) You must destroy the support disc, then place the remains label-side-up on top of the box. You do not need the support disc for our patch.

If you do not have a digital camera, purchase a disposable camera, take the pictures now, develop them, and scan them at an internet cafe. Also, do keep the remains of the destroyed material. You will need them for the questions.]

Edited :

Due to our insanely stupid antics, and our irrationally "dictatorship" style tactics to this, and the fact that we have not really translated this game. We are hereby trying to save embarASSment to ourselves and our staff/tl teams by making it a: absolutely impossible for anyone to obtain this "patch", b: asking that you spend 70 dollars importing the game (not including EMS shipping to get it there in less than 2-3 weeks) and then IMMEDIATELY destroy anything unnecessary to using our "patch"...

(end translation of sketchy web post)

Does anyone else think that this is just a farce on their part, and maybe a feeble attempt to bring a dead group back to life?

Till I see at least 15 screenshots of translated (not photochopped) scenes, of my choosing, I will not destroy any portion of my game. Step up or shut up :) Thank you

I almost went to bed instead of checking 4chan. Jesus, I would have missed the thread of the week. <3 4chan for bringing such awesome drama into my life.

Holy crap. I thought you guys were just exaggerating when you said you had to jump through hoops to get it. Is this a joke?

uhhh, I don't want to pay for it either, but this is not hypocrisy...it may be an illegal modification but the translation group will not earn any money from this, and it will only increase sales of the game. That being said, is this game worth the space on my harddrive?

>>646439
Does anyone else think that this is just a farce on their part, and maybe a feeble attempt to bring a dead group back to life?

hehe aye, but as they say..truth is way stranger than fiction :P

methinks this real drama :P

/r/ sticky of thread

it's like the eureka seven fansub leak all over again

>>646445
>>is this game worth the space on my harddrive?
well, the perverts say it is

>>646439
let me know which screens you want and i'll provide them

>>646454
lol

>>646454
looks good ;) but after this stupidity, i wouldnt touch it with a 10' pole...

>>646439

Okay, seriously, I agree completelly with wanting to try to get the patch to people who own the game legit.

But.... WHAT. THE. EVER. SHITTING. FUCK. IS. THIS. FUCK. AND. SHIT?!

>>646459
But did you actually order it? By the logic of some people on this board, you didn't...

ok the photographic evidence is whatevers...but destroying a CD that is supposedly not needed is too much. What if i wanted to resell my copy of Wind to another person who wanted the COMPLETE thing being a collector freak. Heck, whenever i collect stuff i want it EVERYTHING that was included originally.

>>646470
just order two copies :P j/k

lol this entire thing is silliness in the extrerme...

Moral of the story: Learn japanese, avoid this kind of idiocy.

It's for the best guys. I would reccomend using OhMyTextHooker for this.

although i give shit about fantranslations.

how about we invade their irc channel? lol?

>>646489
/amen....tho i must admit, it would be nice to see some more native-english visual novel games...

>>646502
God, no.

Last thing anyone needs is yet more idiocy.

>>646509
yes plz.
/r/ irc channel invasion

LOL, best thread on /a/ and it has absolutely nothing to do with Haruhi.

>>645803
> lol 10 bux says this is just a torrent by the translation team

nope that was me

I have to wonder how many zeroes of people will go take the plunge and order the game, and then break one of the data discs, severely lowering the resale value.

Non-Japanese interest in visual novels right now is so fledgling, I hope the translation team doesn't think that by releasing the patch for free they would end up 'hurting' the 'industry', rather than supporting it by generating non-Japanese interest. There _are_ legit localization efforts out there like Hirameki International, but they're still pretty damn small (they're touring various anime cons right now, or at least a month ago... go check out their panel if you get the chance)

In a related topic, I've always meant to play that Ever 17... I've heard nothing but good things about it.
http://www.hirameki-int.com/appc/products/e17/introdution.html

>>646520
You said the word that must never be spoken.

I'm guessing the translators are reading this thread. Would be nice to see a rebuttal of some of the points made and more insightful posts.

>>646533
> Would be nice to see a rebuttal of some of the points made and more insightful posts.
i'll let you know when i see posts that are any more insightful than "they have no right to translate this game and then not let ME play it with MY PIRATED COPY"

>>646554
go. fuck. yourself.

Mmm, maybe you all should have a quick read of this:
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showpost.php?p=888161&postcount=101

Although, I admit it might be a bit over the top for some of you to understand ;_;

Also note, about the 'promoting sales' and such... You all saw what happened with planetarian. You're not kidding anyone.
(I didn't write the linked post, nor do I have any ties with NNL, etc. I'm just simply observing)

>>646555
no u

>>646554
Most of them are, granted, but hardly all.
>>646531
>>646470
>>646407
>>646382
are a few.

HTML of this thread recorded on my hard drive for posterity.

Dear Fansubbing Fuckwads,

I wasn't going to download OR buy this game because I don't give two shits about it. I just thought you should be aware that you're going to put the AOL Police out of a job.

The vindictive side of me says 'somebody DDOS their fucking server', but some /b/tard might actually do it and then we'd really be in deep shit.

cant age anymore. fuck
/r invasion

> Most of them are, granted, but hardly all.
okeydoke, let's see...

> Non-Japanese interest in visual novels right now is so fledgling, I hope the translation team doesn't think that by releasing the patch for free they would end up 'hurting' the 'industry', rather than supporting it by generating non-Japanese interest.
yeah, cause the planetarian translation sure "generated interest". in piracy.

> destroying a CD that is supposedly not needed is too much
correct. they are doing this for themselves, and not getting the patch LEAKED is more important to them than actually sending it to everyone who really does own the game. it's a sad decision but not an unethical one. this goes for the other two comments too.

I was actually planning on finding a cheap, incomplete copy from Yahoo Japan or Amazon Japan or whatever, but this has deterred me from getting the game at all.

I dunno about people here, but I buy and sell a majority of my games on eBay and other auction sites. I try to own legit copies while at the same time, save a buck or two. Of course, many of these games aren't guaranteed to be complete or to be in the same exact condition as from a normal retail store.

Having to buy the complete, overpriced version from places like Himeya only to pass that test is absolutely absurd. I appreciate the work the group did, but damn... their efforts aren't just alienating internet pirates.

>>646611
>not getting the patch LEAKED is more important to them than actually sending it to everyone who really does own the game.

And that is why I cancelled my order. I'm sure as hell not going to pay for something I might not be able to even fucking play.

Now, would everyone please switch to the new thread.

>>646611
Agreed, NNL doesn't owe me anything but i just wish they could meet me in some sort of middle ground instead of having to destroy a cd...i posted an another forum which i am pretty sure u can figure out about this issue.

>>646633
*shug* what can you do...no one has found a reasonable middleground yet - not one that doesnt invlove a very-large legitimate sales base at any rate..

I like how everyone's angry at NNL, but no one is angry at the people who waltzed into the IRC channel lying about owning the game and trying to cajole a patch out of them.

>>646655
not angry - more just boggled by the stupidity really...I dont agree with NNL, but I respect them enough not to try and do something like that - if they want to publiclly realease it to all, fine..if they dont, thats fine too. They can do as they will..

>>646611
> yeah, cause the planetarian translation sure "generated interest". in piracy.

With all due respect, the regular CD edition of planetarian is sitting at #5 on Himeyashop.com's list of best sellers. I am assuming that that does not include all of the limited edition CDs sold. Note that it is also the only visual novel on the list and beat *Advent Children* of all things...

'Cause the planetarian translation sure "generated interest". IN SALES.

I dunno, you have to more or less expect some people to test their test. Nobody who has the actual game in their posession right now would have an interest in an Eng. patch.

The saga continues -- new thread:
http://zip.4chan.org/a/res/646473.html